How Korean Girls Learn to be Insecure About Their Bodies
( Found via Mongdori )
Seriously, it’s great that the makers of this video are trying to encourage children to eat foods with fermented bean paste (된장) rather than candy, but do 8 year-olds really need to be told (0:49) that it’s good for their “S-lines” and “V-lines” too?
For those few of you that don’t know what either are, this next commercial in particular makes the former pretty clear:

( Source. The text reads “The S-line you want to have” )
( For a wide screen version, click here )
Anybody wanting to know more about Go Ara (고아라) in the commercial, you can read my biography of her here. As her face in these photos from the commercial make clear, she was much actually younger (sixteen) than she looked in the video.
Meanwhile, complaining about mention of the term in a children’s cartoon doesn’t mean that I’ll pretend that I don’t find women with S-lines figures attractive myself, or that there isn’t an inherent physiological reason for me to instinctively do so either. But many people may be surprised to know that the term itself has been around since at least the 1950s, and it possibly goes back even further still:
The bustle, a fixture of women’s fashion for about twenty years in the latter half of the nineteenth century, added to the general broadness of the hips and to the imagery of reproductive bounty. Bustles worn in conjunction with corsets effected the posture known as the “Grecian bend,” or the “S-curve.” With the buttocks pushed up and back, and the back driven forward, the bend approximated the posture of a female animal and heat, anticipating rear penetration by the male. In the midst of restrictive purity, the implication was of a continual sexual readiness.
(p. 99, Channels of Desire: Mass Images and the Shaping of the American Consciousness, Stuart Ewen & Elizabeth Ewen, 1992).
Having read that, then however arousing, suddenly Go-Ara’s figurehead-like pose in the screenshot above looks very uncomfortable.
(Update: As does this pose of Jeon Hye-bin’s (전혜빈) look too. Minor Korean stars by no means have a monopoly on stupidity, but I can’t imagine too many non-Korean women will be walking around in that particular pose anytime soon)

( Source: PopSeoul! )
In contrast, I find the concept of the V-line very unnatural, here demonstrated rather languidly by BoA (보아). I’m sure that were I to pose the question of its origins to advertisers then they’d mention some historical basis for it, but even if so, why reinvent it other than for the sake of creating a new market of the supposedly unattractive women that lack it?
Lest that commercial foster the idea that what exactly constitutes a V-line is open to interpretation, Kim Tae-hee (김태희) helps remind us that there is really only one definitive standard for Korean beauty:
Not by coincidence, I noticed these “face rollers” starting to appear all over Korea not long after I first heard of V-lines. I’ve read that they are also commonly used for many years in Japan and Taiwan too, and so Korean women may well have been using for a long time before they started worrying about their V-lines specifically. But then they weren’t popular enough for me to have noticed them at all until last year, and certainly sellers of them have been making explicit references to V-lines ever since the concept first appeared:
( Source )
(No, I’m not entirely certain why an ad explicitly for women opens with some not particularly flattering shots of men either. That’s singer Lee Seung-gi (이승기) on the left and comedian Kang Ho-dong (강호동) on the right)
Finally, in addition to S-lines and V-lines, PopSeoul! also mentions “U-lines” and men’s “M-lines”, but these are much less well-used. Sometimes efforts by advertisers to develop new ways for consumers to be dissatisfied with their bodies aren’t always successful then, even when Korean consumers (and women in particular) have acknowledged themselves that they are more conformist than most.
But regardless of that positive note above, all of my quibbles with the various terms, or that children in other countries don’t also learn (through various implicit and explicit means) what their bodies “should” look like as they develop, did those concepts have to be promoted so damn blatantly, to children so young?
Given that, is it any wonder that the first time I ever saw a face roller was not in the hands of a woman, but one of my 13 year-old students instead?
Naturally, I don’t think that 13 year-olds using them are “just cute”, but in an environment where Korean teachers are completely free to berate their students for being too “fat” (and regularly do), then I don’t anticipate things changing anytime soon. Certainly many other, more important things need reforming in Korean education, most notably corporal punishment needing to be abolished, but just on the basis of what negative images of their bodies girls may learn there alone my daughter(s) will not be attending any Korean school for very long.















That V-line thing freaks me out. I cannot stand having a disproportional head.
Everybody loved BoA so much more when she was a teenager with baby fat.
Hollywood stars are voluptuous, but compared to Korean stars, they’re more like…fat.
But hey! I thought that with animé, the Japanese find round faces cute, and wouldn’t that somehow rub off on Japan’s neighbour, Korea?
Kym,
I’m confused, does the V-line thing freak you out because the whole notion that only women with V-lines are attractive is…well…bullshit, or do you disagree and are freaking out because you lack a V-line? If the latter, then I needn’t worry, and I seriously doubt that anybody outside of Korea would consider you to have a “disproportional head”.
Yes, Japanese animé has considerably rubbed off on Korea. I don’t know much about it though, but for more on that you may find this recent semi-related post of Gord Sellar’s interesting.
I recently posted this on my xanga to show people, that I swear, Koreans have problems with so much insecurity and things to “live up to”. Me being an American born Korean, see this as male-propaganda and a way to make girls feel so inadequate. Who the hell says having a “big face” is bad? Who thinks up this shit!? So I showed this to my mom, and she is supportive on these “lines” that so do not exist. I try to explain to her that this is the way society wants women to look. Ridiculous is say, and she rants on that it’s the pretty thing to want.
Thanks for posting this, I can now share this ridiculous notion with my Korean friends!
- Ashley
The V-line thing is pretty, I admit. But out of the two for my being freaked out by it, I’d have to say the former: “the whole notion that only women with V-lines are attractive “.
I was just thinking of Ayumi Lee’s slimming down as the basis of it.
James, that link you gave me was really interesting. Thanks! :)
Kym,
that’s good to hear. i didn’t know who Ayumi Lee was, but a quick search found lots of information about her slimming down for it!
Glad you liked the link.
Ashley
“Who the hell says having a “big face” is bad?”…yes, quite, but you’ll be amazed at how much convincing many Korean women need, and despite the tens of thousands of times I’ve told my wife how beautiful she is if I so much as very playfully tease her that she has a “square” head she’ll have a crisis of confidence for days on end. Naturally I don’t do that all that much these days.
Speaking of which, a cool role model you may be interested in Park Kyung-lim (pictures here) who has done a lot to challenge the notion that women with faces like hers can’t be sexy.
I invariably hear the “because they want to be pretty” line from many Koreans when I ask why they want to whiten their skin, or get cosmetic surgery and so forth. I don’t want to generalize, and to be fair, it’s a ready, easy answer that’s not untrue per se, but I hear it too often and I do really think that using it inhibits deep thinking about what exactly “pretty” is and who’s defining it for us so on.
I read your xanga post, and thanks for the link to it. Just out of curiosity, may I ask what were you studying when you mention you came across this blog? Xanga doesn’t seem very user-friendly to newbies, and so sorry if did write that somewhere before, but I couldn’t find it.
볼쌀 still has a particular place in Korean hearts, but that’s only if you have cute puffy cheeks, like Sohee in Wondergirls. She’s a pretty good example of acceptable 볼쌀. The V-line always looks strange on Korean faces, like they haven’t slept enough.
I also don’t really know if Park Kyung Lim is a good example for what is considered alternative “sexy,” cos I’ve never heard anyone call Park Kyung Lim sexy.
Ayumi Lee of SM, of course SM, has been through sooo many plastic surgeries. Like midway in stint in the girl group Sugar, her eyes mysteriously tripled in size. Granted, Sugar was created for crossover appeal in Japan, hence the anime-esque style. But I still shudder just thinking about her eyes. She looked like those Blythe dolls.
People are particularly fixiating on her recent round because in addition to the plastic surgery she also lost like 20 lbs after being what struck me as like a healthy 50-55 kilo weight. (I can’t help mixing up the weights, I’m a Korean-American, so I think in lbs.) SM is particularly known for being oppressive, even by Korean entertainment standards, for the surgery and weight loss they require of their members.
I don’t buy the S line shiz for one second. I have yet to ever see a Korean woman in Korean advertising that has anything even remotely resembling junk in the trunk OR boobs. Hips sometimes, but boobs or tuckus? Nope. Maaaaybe Jeon Ji Hyun post-My Sassy Girl, but then she went back to being anorexic, sorry, acceptably thin again. Koreans are so not comfortable with what I would call a hourglass figure, aka S line. Alas.
Jae Young,
I’d never heard of “볼쌀”. But my wife knew it, so I wonder why it wasn’t in my dictionary?
In hindsight, that may be the wrong adjective to use to describe Park Kyung Lim. But she is not unattractive, as I recall many people mentioning at about the time of her wedding especially, and besides which, what is “sexy” really? Obviously everyone has different definitions, but to me being sexy is primarily derived from having a positive and assertive attitude to sex and one’s body, which obviously can’t really be conveyed in simple images. Not having met her personally then I couldn’t say if she is sexy or not then, but the fact that she doesn’t give a crap about not having a V-line and so on certainly helps.
I’d disagree that Koreans are not so comfortable with hourglass figures; I see an increasing number of women with them in real life. But unless we’re getting out and measuring like the scientists in that lin I gave did, then what is or isn’t an S-line or hourglass figure and so on is pretty subjective too really!
Well, while I can’t vouch for its antiquity, this seems not to be such a modern concern either, the fear of big faces 호박 is a term I’ve heard several times — in different ways in different places, like 호박 얼굴 or 호박 모리, to basically call someone “Pumpkinhead.” There’s a term for when someone’s head is too small, of course, and ever a bizarre term for when someone has an uneven arse. I kid you not: “짝궁댕이.”
Which is something I’m told classmates occasionally point out about one another, and I’m pretty sure I even heard one college student mock another for it, which makes me think Korean youth need a serious injection of self-defensive snark. (”Just why are you looking at my ass, Chulsoo?”) Especially since the most common response I’ve seen to, “You’re not pretty,” from a man to a woman in college-aged students is blushing and silence. (”And you think you’re handsome? I know a good ophamologist you should see…” would at least leave a shred of dignity intact. You know, the kind of dignity that would have someone gawk or laugh at doing exercises to correct ass-unevenness.)
That said, looking at a film like The Housemaid, I can say that the body-types of the women in it are more varied than we tend to see in media today (because usually a heavier Korean woman is the butt of a joke when she appears at all, and because even an astronaut is demanded, by some, to look like a movie star). It was also a better film than many of the contemporary ones!
BTW, at least I think those are exercises for evening out one’s backside. Maybe someone with more time or better Korean ability than mine can clarify?
I knew the term “호박” meant an unattractive girl or woman, which is why I use it with teenage girls who call me “빡빡이” (baldie), but I didn’t realize it meant specifically the shape of their faces. It does make a lot of sense though.
Come to think of it, I never have actually used it. Other than the odd princess-types in their late-twenties, it’s just the teenage boys that call me that these days. Odd.
I’d agree that Korean youth, women especially, seem to lack the balls to treat comments like that the way they deserve (can’t think of a more apt term at the moment sorry). There was the same passivity amongst the female university students at my very first teaching job here, although as most of the criticisms were in Korean I didn’t realize how bad it was until my girlfriend (now wife) told me later. I do recall though, that one particularly obese male not only thought it perfectly socially acceptable to chide my Canadian female colleague for being fat (same height as him but half the weight!), but chose to do so in the first few minutes of his first class with her too. Needless to say, he was told in no uncertain terms to fuck off and never step foot in her classroom again…
The beauty of Korean, as I am sure you know, is the gazillion phrases/terms that are not in dictionaries but crop up all the time in everyday use. I know all sorts of colloquial terms and phrases picked up from my family that rarely come up in more formal classes/training. A few years back, when I decided to take more formal Korean classes, I used to drive my Korean teacher crazy because I spoke more “naturalistic” Korean, but then my non-native/heritage classmates would have no idea what I was talking about. 볼쌀 is one of those words. I also think people refer to cute chubby cheeks as 만두 too.
Park Kyung Lim is hard too because she’s a comedian and comedians are rarely good looking, as far as I’ve seen, because for some reason, you can’t be funny if you’re good looking? This is something that applies to both men and women.
Koreans don’t really value lip in young women, well at least in my experience. I get yelled at all the time for being sarcastic, loud and obnoxious. When you’re an ajumma, it’s okay, but 눈치 reigns supreme~
I suppose S lines and hourglass figures are relative and having grown up in the US, I have definitely been exposed to a wider range of body types, so I may scoff at S lines, etc but really, a lot of those people posing in CFs don’t have that golden ratio, as far as I can see. They are clearly overextending the curvature of their back to give the appearance of butt. I do find it interesting the growing popularity of people like Beyonce in Korea, but she’s black and American. I don’t know if that sort of leeway in body shape is given to people who are ethnically Asian or people who live day to day with Koreans, as I’m not in Korea. I know people give Hyori crap all the time for being fat and old when she is clearly neither.
I couldn’t agree more about the words that are not in dictionaries but crop up all the time in everyday use. While Korean books are improving all the time (especially the Sogang/서강 series), and can’t help being a bit behind colloquial language, the absence of those terms in textbook conversations is one of the reasons why I find those to be quite unlike the ones I hear in everyday life. Sometimes I seriously contemplate taping a dictaphone under a table in Starbucks, just to have some authentic conversations to work with…
I’ve never thought about how attractive comedians are, but quickly thinking about it now I’d have to admit that I can think of plenty of average to unattractive-looking ones but no outstanding ones. I wonder if that applies across all cultures? Regardless, there’s probably still much much less of a correlation between comedians and unattractiveness and most comedians being the last child in a family though.
I hear what you’re saying about 눈치 too, and of course, not just a Korean thing by any means. Before she returned there to live, my more-Kiwi-than-me Taiwanese friend once mentioned to me how she so easily falls into a set pattern of covering her mouth when laughing, being quiet and so on every time she visited for a vacation.
One reason that you may find S-lines relative is that I’m not entirely certain that there is any scientific definition for it. What is it except T&A in a certain (uncomfortable) posture to emphasize both? How is it any different to the previous 쭉쭉빵빵 term used before? Hourglass figures, in contrast, can be and are scientifically defined by certain bust/waist/hip measurements and ratios, and on that basis researchers have been able to go on to prove that they’re much more fertile than other body types as described in that link in the post, and that men all over the world (from sophisticated urbanites to those in isolated tribes in the Amazon) tend to find that body type the most attractive, presumably for that reason.
You may find this picture of 전혜빈 amusing, but also quite sad: she’s quite attractive, but felt compelled to look ridiculous because of all this S-line madness. Having said that, she wasn’t exactly forced to walk around like that, and she really should have known better!
(Update: I decided to add the picture to the post)
If you have a head only 12cm wide (third video from the top) there must be something seriously wrong with the size of your brain.
Indeed, and a very apt way to put it! But I must confess that having looked at the third video again, now I’m suddenly very curious about the size of my own face, and am very tempted to get 2 bottles and a ruler just to satisfy it…I’ll try to restrain myself until after a few beers on a rainy Sunday afternoon though :D
As an ESLer (English instructor teaching Conversation I and II at a second-rank university) in Korea myself for the last eight years, with a young daughter of my own, I’m very intrigued by the issues you raise and observations you make about Korean gender perceptions and the state of feminism in this country.
Our child is almost five and picking up Korean like a little sponge at her yuchiwan – but I also notice that she is picking up a number of mannerisms and attitudes just as quickly. For example, the high-pitched voice and ‘cutesy’ vocal stylings in which she speaks Korean are far removed from her ‘normal’ sweet, low tones when she uses English – and the new aggression, quick-to-whine-and-tears when her will is thwarted, and peremptory demands rather than requests for things are, I believe, a direct result of her exposure to her kindergarden friends and their behaviour (though the same could be said for a Western preschool, methinks).
While I’m happy that she is learning the language, I’ll be pulling her out of yuchiwan next semester to homeschool full-time, and not incidentally, ensure that our values and mores are promoted and encouraged. I found it interesting that on her weekly ‘comments sheet’ (the school’s equivalent of ‘report card’) there are notations like ‘plays well with others’ and ‘enjoys answering questions’ but also ‘notices what others are wearing’ and ‘dresses well’ (no, I’m not kidding!)
Did I mention I’m a feminist artist ‘on the side’? See my website, and feel free to contact me if you want to dialog further.
Thanks for your comment Judy. At a ripe old age of 2 years and 4 months, I don’t have too many concerns in a feminist sense about my eldest daughter yet(!), but I’m very aware that they will invariably become an issue here, and it’s good to know what to anticipate.
At the moment the biggest concern I have is not related to her gender but more the excessive attention she gets from being a mixed-race child (although most Koreans think she is purely Caucasian). I admit, she is indeed very cute, there’s of course nothing at all wrong with people pointing that out, and I do like to show her off frequently, especially as I’m not much to look at myself in my current sleep-deprived state. But on the other hand, other than it kind of being sad that she gets attention that a Korean-looking child wouldn’t, I worry that the constant attention and compliments will go to her head at some point. I’ve read of it happening to parents with slightly older children here.
Still, despite everything I’ve written on the subject and living here 8 years myself, I couldn’t help but be surprised (and amused, sorry!) at the comments on your daughter’s report card…sooo typical. I doubt that the boy’s report cards would have any comments like that.
If I was in the same situation as you I’d be in a bit of a dilemma…homeschooling is fine of course, but it’s also important that she gets plenty of chances to play and interact with other children. My own daughter goes with her mother to a “jump class” with other Korean children at a community center once a week, and every so often hangs out with other mothers in “international relationships” and their children, but their ages are quite mixed and it’s not as often as we’d like.
I took a quick look at your website and will try to check it out more thoroughly sometime, but I’m afraid that my second daughter is keeping me pretty sleep-deprived and occupied right now!